by
Ralph Haulk
After I left the old WCG in 1974, my neighbor talked me into joining the marines, which was interesting, because I did gain access to a lot of writings and publications in California (land of fruits and nuts) than I would have in the foothills of Appalachia.
I ran across a book written by Brad Steiger titled “Mysteries of Time And Space”, and found it quite entertaining, especially the part about UFOs and “cosmic ‘Big Brothers’.
I have since misplaced the book but Steiger makes a most interesting point. There is no better way, wrote Steiger, of taking over this world than by seeding a crossbred race to operate from within our own species. These “special children” may be totally unaware of any special identity, but are being quietly shepherded by their cosmic “Big Brothers” in a process that will take many generations of mental and spiritual evolution. After that time, wrote Steiger, they may receive a signal which only they will understand, taking over special places in world government.
Most members of the old WCG and offshoots are aware that heaven is not the reward of the “saved” but are taught right off that God is indeed selecting a few who will qualify for places as kings/priests in “The World Tomorrow.”
As for “seeding a crossbred race”, my mind instantly went to genesis 21:1-2: “And the Lord visited Sarah as he had said, and the Lord did unto Sarah as he had spoken. For Sarah conceived, and bore Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him.”
What did Abraham contribute to Isaac’s birth? Not even sperm, apparently, since Sarah couldn’t get pregnant anyway. While kicking around among the UFO literature of the day, I found a book written by Art Gatti, titled “UFO Encounters of the Fourth Kind”, which dealt with sexual liaisons between women and UFOnauts of that time.Gatti writes: “Cyrus H. Gordon’s scholarly Before The Bible (Collins, London:1962) points out that, where Genesis points out that the Lord “visited” Sarah, the Bible uses the word paqad,which is the verb meaning a man visiting his wife to have intercourse with her.””And the lord did unto Sarah….”
Let’s re-examine the promise made to Abraham and put it in terms more consistent with the above:
“You, Abraham, if you accept my promise, will have a son. This son will be the first of other children to be born under exactly the same conditions, the same circumstances. They will be foreknown, as Isaac is, they will be predestined, as Isaac is, and they will be called and developed by over time, specially selected to take over positions of world government when I decide”.
Once the deal was made, Abraham only had to trust that Yahweh would keep his promise. Abraham only needed to believe. Isaac would be born, and other children would be born as Yahweh selected, over time, under exactly the same promise and the same terms, as Isaac.
This is absolutely brilliant in its simplicity. It allows people to believe whatever they wish, to put any interpretation on God they choose. It allows freedom of choice to any degree the human mind is capable, but it keeps Yahweh quietly in charge of a process that is NOT dependent on the understanding of the world’s population. It could be carried out simply and quietly while humans fought and killed over who had the most peaceful religion.
Think about Jesus’ conversation with Nicodemus. Unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of heaven. The word “again” comes from the Greek “anothen” and means “from above”, not “again”. The word “annagennao” means literally “again born”, as used in 1 Peter 1:3, “…hath begotten us again unto a lively hope…”.
I would propose that Peter refers to a group that is “born from above”, and at a later time,“born again”, that is, made aware of their special place. The evidence for this comes abundantly from the verses above it.”Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the spirit…”
The word “spirit” plays an important part in both Jesus and Paul’s teachings. These ‘special children are “ready to be revealed in the last time”(verse 5).
Jesus tells Nicodemus there is a birth of the flesh, and a birth of the spirit. It is assumed by Christianity that we are “born again” upon acceptance of Christ, and baptism, but that is not exactly what Jesus said. Nicodemus was well aware of a “special birth” and assumed that all Israelites were literally born to inherit God’s kingdom. The idea that a person must be “born again” or “born from above” was a surprise to him. Can a man re-enter his mother’s womb?
The old WCG quoted John 3:8 a lot, but notice what it says: “The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound therof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is everyone that is born of the spirit“.
John 1:13 also gives an interesting statement on this: “Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God”.
So far, we see an account almost exactly like that proposed by Steiger, above. We see in John 6:37: “All that the father giveth me shall come to me…”
John 6:44: “No man can come to me except the father which hath sent me draw him…”. This indicates that Yahweh, the actual father of these children, whoever they are, will call them to Jesus by special appointment, not freewill choice. The word “draw” there, comes from the Greek which means, more or less, against one’s intentions. In other words, while they’re looking in one direction, they will be drawn in a direction they do not anticipate. The Greek is “helkos” and is also used in similar fashion in Acts 16:19, drawn against their will, or against the principles of nature.Paul goes into greater detail on the birth of “flesh” and “spirit” in Romans 9:8: “That is, they which are the children of the flesh(Israel) are not the children of God. But the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
What promise? Verse 9: “For this is the word of promise, ‘At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son’.”
In verse 11: Paul takes it even further: “For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to the election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth.” Then Paul goes into great pains, in Romans 9:16-22, to show that there simply exists no decision procedure, no “algorithm”, no process of human will by which we may show ourselves any closer to God than anyone else. Verse 16: “So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy“.
Paul has gone to great pains to show that it is simply impossible for humans, of their own will, to qualify for this position. There is Romans 8:7, Romans 8:29-30, and Romans 9:8-22.
But then, you go into Galatians 3:29, which is even more obvious: “And if ye be Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 4:28: “Now we brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise“.
Who are they, assuming they ACTUALLY EXIST? I have no idea, nor does anyone else. There is simply no process by which we can define or recognize them, since they are completely dependent on a deal controlled by Yahweh, made with Abraham.
Two different births, one of flesh (Israel), and one of “spirit” or promise. The word “spirit’ and “promise’ are used interchangeably in Galatians 4:29 “But as then he that was born after the flesh, persecuted him that was born after the spirit, even so it is now”.
The allegory that Paul uses was the birth of Isaac, of a free-woman, and Ishmael, who was born of a bond maid. The “bond” was then referred to Sinai, the law given to Israel, which places people into bondage to law. Isaac was born of promise, a deal made with Abraham which came 430 years before Sinai, so it stands in full intent apart from the law (Galatians 3:17).
Yahweh, therefore, had two basic plans in mind. By giving the law to Israel, he actually created a system that would lead to division, confusion, and discord, but he quietly maintained a promise between himself and Abraham that was not dependent in any way on the will, intent, or decisions of humans as individuals, religions, or governments.
This is far simpler, more brilliant in its simplicity, and can be fully implemented according to a system that is not dependent in any way on human will.
If it’s true, there is no need to worry about human authorities, religions, or governments. If it is NOT true, there is STILL no need to worry about human religions or governments in terms of “God” since you are automatically free of them.
The only correct choice to make in terms of religion, therefore, is given in Matthew 24:23. Don’t believe any of them. The only correct choice you can make, religious or atheist, is to be free from human ideologies and superstitions.
Great graphics, great video selection. Cult classic.
“…taking over this world then by seeding a crossbred race to operate from within our own species.”
Well I will say this. Armstrong-ism is trying to take over the species just as the Nazi’s did. If you gave, say, James Malm power over the world, power plants wouldn’t operate on the sabbath, the military stand down and would be at church, and I couldn’t get a cold beer after ignoring church and working all day!
“If it’s true, there is no need to worry about human authorities, religions, or governments. If it is NOT true, there is STILL no need to worry about human religions or governments in terms of “God” since you are automatically free of them.”
And if you were to try to run a religion on that Ralph you would soon find yourself looking for REAL work. People don’t want truth they want to feel special. They want a horse and pony show with all the extra baggage that religion can bring.
Although you and Biker Bob are worlds apart, you both draw the same conclusion in different ways. You don’t need man to get in between God and you, assuming God exists of course. If you want to believe leaving out the “go-between” I say fine. Its yours, you own it. If you don’t want to believe, that is just fine. In the end both the believer and the non-believer are free of man dictating to them as to what God wants.
You know, this does bring up an important question:
Are the Armstrongist cult leaders actually human?
Dr. Robert Hare, in his book, “Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of Psychopaths”, brings up his study of psychopath brain waves — they aren’t human!
So let the Armstrongist cult leaders have an encephalogram taken of their brain waves. Let us see for ourselves whether or not they are even human.
If I were a betting man, I’d bet that we’d find quite a few that weren’t.
Especially if they are from Australia.
Next up: Let’s have them take the genetic DNA test for the “Warrior Gene”.
“And if you were to try to run a religion on that Ralph you would soon find yourself looking for REAL work. People don’t want truth they want to feel special. They want a horse and pony show with all the extra baggage that religion can bring. ”
You’re certainly right on that. Yeatrs ago, I seriously thought about a book on the subject, titled “UFOs and The Bible”, since there was a lt of interest at the time. I had a lady who did the typesetting for publication(in the days before computers made it so simple). She read it, and told me “You’re a good writer. You hold people’s interest, and this is an amazing idea, but it won’t sell”
“Why not?” I asked.
“Because people don’t want to be free. They want to choose systems of thought that makes them feel good, and allows them to fit in with others they see as being like themselves.”
She was right. Even though I had testimonials from UFO authors(Brad Steiger, who also gave me permission freely to quote him in my book, and Leonard Stringfield, a respected author who worked with “Project Blue Book”), people just didn’t want to get into it.
After I began studying sociobiology in conjunction with psychology, I learned, as Douglas Becker probably has, the reasns why people do this. But in learning, it merely strengthened the reasons why it would be the most logical conclusion regarding an actual God.
BTW, here’s a scripture my Dad pointed out to me before he died, 1 John 3:9: “Whosoever is born of God doth not sin; for his(God’s) SEED remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God”.
I almost forgot:”If you don’t want to believe, that is just fine. In the end both the believer and the non-believer are free of man dictating to them as to what God wants.”
Precisely. You have just spoken the only possible provable truth. Occam’s razor.
If truth is consistent with all truth, as it must be, since any statement contradicting truth cannot be true, then whatever you would conclude about truth should be the same in regard to God, as God must be consistent with truth for any kind of reliable proof. Consequently, the truth must be consistent: whether you believe in God or not, you will ultimately end up being free from all authority systems of men. Therefore, Matthew 24:23.
Douglas:
“Dr. Robert Hare, in his book, “Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of Psychopaths”, brings up his study of psychopath brain waves — they aren’t human!”
If not human, then what? Mechanical? This makes me think of the statement of the psychotherapist Philip Slater:
“When men invented the machine, for which there is no external model in nature, he invented it in his own image. The machine does not come from nowhere–it mirrors man’s mechanical head”.
The extension of a principle in linear fashion into the environment, Slater calls narcissism. The more mechanical/logical the brain becomes without regard to individual emotions, the greater the extended pwer of that mind, so that principles becme “homogenized” into vague guidelines accepted by the masses. This is also the hallmark of the proselytizer, the true believer who feels the need to “convert” as many as possible to his/her way of thinking.
I was thinking of that when I saw James, video above with the “consume” “buy” etc, written subliminally. These are all “connector” terms that unite us in general desires, and eliminae individual responses.
Slater also writes: “A machine is ‘free’. It is free of everything but its program. A blind man is free from the blinding sun, a deaf man from the deafening thunder. Much of the time when we talk of freedom, we mean freedom from messages–the ability to pay attention only to interior conceptual patterns….the capacity to operate soley in response to internal lgic, to ignore feedback, is what makes mass killing possible….a machine-like response in the face of danger had no value until men began to make war on each other–it was of no use in either hunting or surviving predators. The most mechanical people won over those less so, so that a profound cultural selection took place”.
The need for wealth, for importance, to extend oneself into the environment, is certainly something that even HWA ad mitted as his own flaw. Consequently, Yahweh needed to inroduce ” break points” from time to time, introduce individuals who saw the world in far different patterns and ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE THE KIND OF RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY, SPLINTERING, AND CONFUSION WE SEE AROUND US TODAY. This the warni ng of Matthew 24 on deception, and also the warning that “these things must come to pass”, therefore, stand aside and let it be, ’cause you ain’t gonna change it.
The brain wave patterns were simply not human — they didn’t have a human pattern.
I don’t know whether there was any other brain wave pattern like it among the other species.
I find it amusing that some may think of either extraterrestrial aliens or demons, take your pick.
Psychopaths, as they say, are a different animal.
I wonder if those you of whom you speak, Ralph, have different measureable brainwaves — I would think that if there is a substantiative difference it would show up in an encephalogram.
It is doubtful that anyone would perform such a study (it may result in very disturbing observations).
“I wonder if those you of whom you speak, Ralph, have different measureable brainwaves — I would think that if there is a substantiative difference it would show up in an encephalogram.”
Your question conicides with a NOVA program(PBS) that I was watching on Artificial Intelligence and the computer that beat the “Jeopardy” contestants.
One expert pointed out that the computer cannot understand the parables of the bible. It can only select regularities and discover patterns. This is interesting, because, as even the COGs used to teach, parables were not “given” to the masses(Matthew 13:10-11). If someone understands those parables, they would NOT be subject to general exxplanation, since anything that can be defined and translated to language can be translated to algorithms and programmed into a computer. The parables, therefore, do not compute. OTOH, if the brain is no more than a computer, subject to laws of physics, then we can ultimately model a computer mathematically to match the brain.
Even doing that, however, creates problems, as we already know from Heisenberg and Godel that we cannot measure certain physical complements, such as whether an electron is a wave or particle, or the measurement of both position and velocity of an electron, and then Gdel demonstrated we can’t ever put truth into one axiomatic package. Computers are built on axioms. Whatever we cannot know, a computer cannot know, and if there is a message that is not “given”, then there is no way of axiomatically organizing it and packaging it, which means that BOTH RELIGIONS AND GOVERNMENTS ARE USELESS FOR DISCOVERING IT.
If such knowledge exists, you necessarily have an “undecipherable” elect, a group based n algorithms NOT consistent with human thought, therefore Isaiah 55:8, and Romans 8:7. How is an encephalogram going to recognize the difference?
So, from thoughts above, the conclusion that there is a God, would result in conditions indistinguishable from NO God. This means that all human efforts at such matters must inevitably end in that very conclusion.
I have come to the conclusion long ago that the psychopath has a primitive wave pattern. A left over perhaps of Neanderthal man, the subspecies of the Homo sapiens.
Don’t know about psychopaths, but the marines made me a pretty good sociopath. By the time I was discharged, I had the wodeful lack of emtional attachment to much of anything. Very little conscience, and willing to fight anyone anywhere. The fact that I could get killed didn’t bother me.
It is possible that psychpathic brainwaves are some kind of leftover, but our Western soceity tends to produce sociopaths. We must become increasingly sociopathic in order to survive.
You bring yet another scripture to mind, often quoted(misquoted) by HWA:
“And because i niquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold(Matt 24:12)”
“Iniquity” of course was equated with “lawlessness”. The strange thing now is that we can’t even fart without laws to punish or fine us. But it is the very increase of those laws that cause more and more people to rebel in “lawlessness”. When laws dominate our behavior, we react in anger and hatred, and we resent authority to a greater degree. Afte the marines, I found it easy to cheat big businesses without a qualm of conscience, where i would never have cheated a small business owner who was tying to do a good job and make a profit. If the ATM spit out that extra twenty, I pocketed it, because it came from big business that didn’t give a damn about me.
We live in a world ruled by a mechanical state, an increasingly complex system of rules and laws that most of us can’t understand, and we’re supposed to like it. Personally, I don’t, and I see rebellion as perfectly acceptable. I also feel much more alive when I’m saying “hell no!”, as many of the members of this forum seem to be when they’re giving the finger to bible god. But that’s the whle point of the bible; fractals, keep things broken down into small units, split and splinter. The present religious system was developed by the elites of the mass media to develp a homogenized christianity for labor purposes, along with nationalist expansion. HWA was just anther wing of the same force, even if he started out with pure motives.
Don’t know about psychopaths, but the marines made me a pretty good sociopath. By the time I was discharged, I had the wodeful lack of emtional attachment to much of anything. Very little conscience, and willing to fight anyone anywhere. The fact that I could get killed didn’t bother me.
It was the DRUGS Ralph.
I took no drugs of which I am aware, except alcohol, but not to excess.
Did you not HAVE to take drugs, various “shots” and medications whilst in the services Ralph with or without your consent? That is what I refer to. Yes you did, is the truthful answer.
I admire you Ralph, for all your service time, as I admire all good military who serve for the true noble cause. I do realize that not all the military are noble of late, being swayed by questionable government motives, and disregard for the fighting man.
“I admire you Ralph, for all your service time, as I admire all good military who serve for the true noble cause. I do realize that not all the military are noble of late, being swayed by questionable government motives, and disregard for the fighting man.”
I would tend to agree with you on this Bob. It seems America is at war with the world. Russia is getting back in the game with the election of Putin in order to counter America’s growing threat to world peace.
Good points, Bob. I was a “shitbird” during my time in the marines, but really, at that time, most marines were either shitbirds or wannabes. I stood two company Office Hurs, two Batallion office Hours, and a Special Court Martial for desertion which I won.
Double AYE!!! Canadian to you Ralph. Awesome!
Thank you, Bob. I am honored.
“It seems America is at war with the world. Russia is getting back in the game with the election of Putin in order to counter America’s growing threat to world peace.”
James, a “like” on this. I just listed certain discussion points on Facebook:
1. If you must vote for the lesser of two evils, then you must conclue that government, at best, is evil
2.If you agree with the christians that the bible is true, then you must conclude that:
(a) the gvernment is evil
(b)it is controlled by Satan(Matthew 4, Luke 4)
Since government at its best is but a necessary evil(Thomas Paine)
(c)There is no point in voting at all
This would apply to your participation in religion as well
Your comment, therefore, would mean that the US is getting “self righteous” and has lost the ability tto question its own moral purpose, largely the result of the central banking system(Federal reserve), which needs “converts” to maintain its growth, and therefore has developed modern “christianity” as we recognize it.
“..The present religious system was developed by the elites of the mass media to develp a homogenized christianity for labor purposes,”
Had that same talk today with a Mormon friend. The monetary/ labor system is set up like a religion. To enslave you, expending your labor for the benefit of others who contribute nothing of value to society.
One problem with science at this point is that we’re simply not trained to recognize certain anomalies. One example of this is back in 1980, when my biology instructor in college said there was no apparent purpose for viruses in evolution. At that instant, I realized that viruses are a major player in “informing” evolution and explained it to him. That very explanation later became the standard explanation for epigenetics. My biology teacher failed me. Imagine what credits i could have received if I had a teacher with more open sensitivities.
WE might look for differences, but the definition of those differences might not be apparent, as in Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle or Godel’s incompleteness theorem.
From James:
“Had that same talk today with a Mormon friend. The monetary/ labor system is set up like a religion. To enslave you, expending your labor for the benefit of others who contribute nothing of value to society.”
Mormons are sharp, as a rule. I used to talk with their teen-age “elders” and see what they believed. They have absorbed a lot of biblical knowledge. I soon realized after several encounters that they follow pretty much the same pattern you describe above. If they encounter someone who is pretty sharp, but has a different spi n that may be used later, they absorb him, Borg-like, into their system. I was invited right on, once they saw the number of books that had been mailed to me on different sujects, such as economics, and autgraphed by the authors(this was in the 80s, when I was editor/publisher of a worldwide economics discussion multilogue). Because I am able to absorb a lot of different ideas and re-arrange them in a tighter pattern, I would be useful, possibly, to them.
My friend realizes it is impossible to have me adsorb into the collective. I would be a splinter in their eyes, and a sore on their collective ass. His dis-fellowship would follow and his church would be in ruins.
As it stands, I have him now where he can admit that they are very wrong on many things. What follows may take time, but he most likely will leave in another year or two. Leave to a life of freedom and independent thinking outside the collective.
“As it stands, I have him now where he can admit that they are very wrong on many things. What follows may take time, but he most likely will leave in another year or two. Leave to a life of freedom and independent thinking outside the collective.”
Need a “like” button. As Eric Hoffer wrote, when a person leaves a mass movement, he actually swallows it. He becomes the full value of what once was only a cog in the machine. Mass movements, mass governments, all sereve a useful purpose, but not what most people assume.