“I want to make a statement about…me…now, if I became deceived, I will never tell you what I’m going to tell you now…I am telling you if I go off into strange ideas, misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don’t follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I’m gonna try to get you to follow me! I’m gonna come to you and tell you it doesn’t apply, it doesn’t mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it’s OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I’m saying? Listen to me now, when I tell you don’t follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct, because if I do I’m gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I’m saying brethren? Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I’ll forget it, and I’ll want you to forget it…And I hope you’ll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me…But I’ll tell you what, I’m not going anywhere.”
-David C Pack
December 12, 1998
The Clarion Call of Apostle David C. Pack
Video and audio files can be found here and on Rumble
Thanks to John Kiesz, we know how HWA thought God ‘revealed’ things to him. He would read or hear something, do a cursory check to see if it could be ‘proved’ by his logic, and it was ‘his’. I believe this particular CG7 booklet wasn’t copyrighted, not that it made much difference.
There was a sermonette about NASA scientists ‘missing a day’ in some computer analysis. On the scene was a Christian fellow who explained that taking ‘Joshua’s long day’, the backward movement of the sun for Anaz, etc, you got 24 hours. While the sermonette presented this as another ‘proof of the bible’, the story was pure fiction and we can thank some uncredited author – just like Washington Irving’s biography of Columbus led many to think 15th century scholars thought the world was flat.
Proof as an advertising vehicle designed to close a sale is vastly different from a typical mathematical proof, or the following of an evidentiary trail along the lines of the scientific method.
The funny thing is, the spectre of the weekly days being reset each new moon for a lunar calculation of the sabbath has been raised in the intervening years since HWA’s death, and there has been much deeper thought given to creation week as outlined in the Bible. The time keepers which reckon 24 hour periods were not even created until mid-creation cycle per the Genesis account. Even Nahmanides seemed to take in account the concept of relativity, though he lived 7-800 years prior to Einstein.
BB
“Did Herbert Armstrong deliberately hide his sources of information so he could claim that God revealed doctrines to him directly, and that he did not get his teachings from men?”
HWA=Simon Magus.
Of course. But not only that, HWA also discredited his sources, those very same sources that gave him the Divine Knowledge from Gauwd! Didn’t HWA claim that B.I. wasn’t plagiarism because he proved J.H. Allen’s theory to himself and that’s why it wasn’t plagiarism. This just goes to show you what Gauwd HWA served.
Himself.
BTW, I got into B.I. through GTA. At least GTA listed J.H. Allen and others, even including secular works like Stuartt Pigot’s “Druids” in his biblioagraphy.
“That Long Day of Joshua’s”
wherefore?
Yes, HWA did write that he had seen Allen’s book, and claimed it had errors. Of course, he didn’t mention when he saw it, or what the errors were.
Recycled garbage.
Like the original was all that viable.