Hey kids! It’s time once again for your folks to begin planning for summer! Sure, we haven’t even hit Spring and the Days of Unleavened Bread yet, but you know reservations can take the best spots and the money has to be set aside for a week of fun at camp!
While it is true that a number of the Cult of Herbert Armstrong Mafia sects have summer camps, it’s high time you and your parents reconsidered their programs and look for alternatives, given that the Founder, Herbert Armstrong, was a failed false prophet who did terrible things to his own children. Camp Orr, Minnesota doesn’t exist any more and there’s no Garner Ted Armstrong to stop by and visit with the young… sters (thank G… Oh, never mind).
I know what you’re thinking. You probably are suspicious. And why not, when you have someone like Tim Hawkins making fun of Atheist Summer Camp:
Very funny.
There are tens of millions of atheists in the United States — the number has doubled in the past few decades (assuredly, partly thanks to Herbert Armstrong: When people began waking up to what a fraud he was, starting to do some research, think for themselves and finding that he was just full of it, many saw that his supposed ‘proofs’ were so much sloppy research promoting lies — and finding no compelling reason to believe, left the fold). No one should be surprised that there is a separation of church and summer camp. There is a wave of atheist summer camps, offering a god free alternative to the traditional religious summer camps:
It’s a relief for the campers to spend time with kids like themselves. Note that Chandler Gary didn’t have any atheist friends near where he lived and he’d like to hang out with some — he’d like to go to a friend’s place and not have to listen to prayer before eating (the Armstrongists are famous for asking God to remove poison from the food: Just think, atheist moms don’t put poison in the food for their children, so don’t have to ask God to take it out and not putting poison in the food saves a lot of time, not to mention money and trips to emergency). Notice too, he’s actually been bullied by his Christian friends. Wait! What? Is that what Christianity is all about? Did Jesus command to bully your enemy unbelievers? It was nice for the kids to be able to attend camp where they weren’t limited, bullied or hurt. Socrates Cafe sounds interesting. Camp Counselor: The best way to become an atheist is to study the Bible (Amen to that!). The children think that people find comfort in God because of the unknown (we all know the truth — Armstrongists believe because of what they think they know about the future [which isn’t going to turn out the way they think], which means that they believe in God because of the (wrong) known). It’s really hard to take responsibility for yourself and much easier to just let someone Else come in and make things better. At least the atheist kids can admit they don’t know.
You can look at the activities at Camp Quest: You will find the standard stuff, like:
- Archery
- Campfires
- Canoeing/Kayaking
- Climbing
- Crafts
- Dance
- Drama
- Field Trips
- Games
- High and Low Ropes Challenge Courses
- Hiking
- Horseback Riding
- Overnight Sleepout
- Photography
- Singing & Songwriting
- Sports
- Swimming
Of more interest are the intellectual pursuits:
Educational
- Astronomy
- Biology & Evolution
- Critical Thinking
- Ecology & Environmental Science
- Ethics
- Famous Freethinkers/Humanist Heroes
- Fossil Hunting
- Invisible Unicorn Challenge
- Philosophy
- Science Experiments
- World Religions
One item stands out more that any other — an activity which was never and will never be pursued by the Armstrongists: Ethics. Anyway, they are devoid of it, so would be totally incapable of teaching it.
Parents can never know where this can lead. Long ago, Carl Sagan took a teenager ‘under his wing’ so to speak. He was very nice to the young man and helped him with his understanding with science. Decades later, Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson honored his mentor by rebooting Cosmos.
Not all of us at the Painful Truth are atheists (in spite of what the Exit and Support Network may say), so we aren’t necessarily advocating Atheist Summer Camp, but on the other hand, we absolutely oppose Armstrongist summer camps for obvious reasons.
‘Not all of us at the Painful Truth are atheists (in spite of what the Exit and Support Network may say)’
They need to update their information but doubt that they care to be fair to us. Just the way it is.
And Bob Thiel labels this and all other COG-critical sites as “anti-COG”.
Some years ago, Exit and Support and COGWriter both made similar mistakes regarding the 613 mitvot and the Oral Law. When I emailed about it, Bob replied that he’d look into it, and he eventually changed it. E&S on the other hand told me I didn’t know what I was talking about. After a flurry of emails, they discovered their mistake and told me about it as if I had been asking them a question. They still have a few footnotes relating to their error that haven’t been changed.
A few months ago, Bob also made a small correction that had been pointed out in a Painful Truth post. I’m hoping it wasn’t just a coincidence…
‘A few months ago, Bob also made a small correction that had been pointed out in a Painful Truth post. I’m hoping it wasn’t just a coincidence…’
No such things as a ‘coincident’ in my humble opinion. Especially in armstrongism. Everything is done for a reason with these type of men.