We at The Painful Truth want to thank The Journal for doing our job for us!

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We’re delighted with the support the latest The Journal has given our cause! It starts innocently enough on page 3 with the article, The old class system’s roots run deep by David Havir. For those who do not know, David Havir is described at the top of the article as The writer is a church pastor and a regular columnist for THE JOURNAL. Of course he is: He is the church pastor for the Church of God Big Sandy which is the church where the editor, Dixon Cartwright, attends. They are good friends and David Havir’s columns seem to make it into nearly every The Journal there is, without all that mucking about with paying advertising costs. The article he wrote is about “Servant Leadership”. What he wrote about Herbert Armstrong in the article, we think you’ll agree, is significant:

Coercive hierarchy

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Many people claim that the major problem with Mr. Armstrong’s approach to government was that he became an advocate for a hierarchy headed by one man.
square8 I don’t believe that the worst problem was that he chose to head up a hierarchy. (For the record, I presently participate in a congregational form of government, and I do not recommend a one-mangoverned hierarchy.)
I believe the greater problem was that he administered a coercive hierarchy. In other words, there was much psychological pressure to accept the supposed spiritual authority of the hierarchy. (A coercive hierarchy can also be administered by a group of rulers. If you look around, you will see coercive hierarchies being administered by one-man leadership and by group leadership.)
I believe the greater problem was that he viewed himself as (1) the leader of God’s government on earth, (2) the leader of the main part of the Body of Christ, (3) spiritually outranking every other human being and (4) the leader of the ruling class.

His last book
Let me refresh your memory with excerpts from Mr. Armstrong’s book Mystery of the Ages (published in 1985). All the emphasis is his.
Reading these quotes helps me understand why some people reject the principles of servant leadership.
Mr. Armstrong taught that Peter was the chief apostle. (The primacy of Peter is one of the foundational principles of the hierarchy fostered by the Roman Catholic Church and the WCG.)
He wrote on page 221: “The surname Peter had for centuries been a surname or TITLE, designating a religious LEADER, HEAD or HEADQUARTERS. Peter was the first and chief apostle.”
Mr. Armstrong taught the need for loyalty to the government of God. (Remember, his faulty premise was that loyalty to God meant being loyal to the one true church, over which he presided.)
He wrote on page 227: “Bear in mind further: In order for Christ to RESTORE God’s government over the earth, he would need with and under him a qualified and organized personnel of GOD BEINGS—all having rejected Satan’s false way and having
proved their loyalty to the government and righteous ways of God!”
Mr. Armstrong taught that there was only one church, and those who splintered off from it were no longer in the one true church. (Remember, his faulty premise was that to leave the church, over which he presided, was to leave the one true church.)
He wrote on page 243: “Notice especially, there is only the ONE CHURCH. Not MANY churches. The CHURCH is not divided. There is only one Church. Not a parent church and many little daughter churches that have split off in disagreement. Divisions splintering off are NOT STILL IN THE CHURCH. It is the CHURCH that is to marry Christ in the resurrection at his coming—not disagreeing churches—not groups who have broken off! Not a parent church and apostate daughters.”
Mr. Armstrong taught the military model of government with ranks of authority.
He wrote on page 256: “The CHURCH, as initially called in this life, is NOT YET capable of RULING the earth [and] . . . of administering THE GOVERNMENT OF GOD. And THAT IS WHY God has placed HIS GOVERNMENT in his Church. That is WHY God’s Church government is theocratic instead of democratic. That is why God has set ranks of government in his Church, apostles, evangelists, pastors, elders, both preaching and non-preaching.”

Mr. Armstrong taught that he had the rank of apostle. (In other writings and sermons he taught that the main purpose of a saint was to support him.)
He wrote on page 266: “What part does the individual local member have in taking the gospel message to ALL THE WORLD? This is done primarily and directly by the APOSTLE.”
Mr. Armstrong taught that saints could not grow without his help (as a perceived apostle) and the help of others in the rank system.
He wrote on pages 267-268: “The author, Christ’s apostle, can say emphatically that the apostles, evangelists, pastors and elders could not carry on the work of God without the loyal backing and continual encouragement of the lay members. Neither can the individual lay member develop and build within him God’s holy, righteous and perfect CHARACTER without the operations of the apostle, evangelists, pastors and elders.”
Mr. Armstrong taught that there was only one way to be trained. (Remember, his faulty premise was that the only way to be trained was in the one true church, over which he presided.)
He wrote on page 270: “The ‘loner’ —the ‘individual Christian,’ who wants to climb up into the kingdom some other way than by CHRIST and HIS WAY through his CHURCH—is not being trained in CHRIST’S MANNER OF TRAINING, to rule and reign with Christ in his kingdom! . . . The person who says ‘I will get my salvation alone, outside of the Church’ is totally deceived.”
Mr. Armstrong taught that church leaders could put people out of the Body of Christ. (Stopping someone from attending a particular congregation is different from claiming to remove him from the spiritual organism.) He taught that a main reason for
people to be “put out” was “opposition to church government.” (Since that ethereal reason can be subjective and political, it has led to much unjust treatment of saints.)
He wrote on pages 271-272: “What about one who has been IN Christ’s ‘spiritual BODY’—the Church—and is PUT OUT for cause (causing division or rebellion or opposition to Church government)? The CHURCH is like a human mother who is pregnant. If there is an abortion, the HUMAN LIFE departs totally from the fetus. There is, however, perhaps one difference in
this analogy. A human who goes out, or is put out of God’s Church, could, on repentance and renewed belief, be admitted back into the body again.”
Mr. Armstrong taught that God would raise up a human leader in the spirit and power of Elijah to restore truth. (In other writings and sermons he emphasized that the end-time Elijah would restore the truth about the government of God.)
He wrote on pages 290-291: “Although it is plainly revealed that John the Baptist had come in the power and spirit of Elijah, he did not restore anything. The human leader to be raised up somewhat shortly prior to Christ’s Second Coming was to prepare
the way—prepare the Church—for Christ’s coming, and restore the truth that had been lost through the preceding eras of the Church.”
Mr. Armstrong taught that he fulfilled Matthew 24:14.

He wrote on page 291: “These prophecies have now definitely been fulfilled. The true gospel has been restored and has now gone in power into every nation on the face of the earth.”

Mr. Havir goes on to show how wrong this all is and ends with a section entitled “No Easy Fix”. There is no easy fix because every Church of God that has come from Herbert Armstrong is tainted by his arrogant controlling hierarchy, even the Church of God Big Sandy (that also includes the Grace Communion International). If it weren’t for Herbert Armstrong, neither the CoGBS would exist, nor would any other of the 700+ club. He started it all and without him there would be absolutely nothing. There is no way to hide from his influence. The only way to fix anything is to abandon it all and go where someone else has established a social group for those refugees from the Radio / Worldwide Church of God.

Here is what Neotherm had to say about the article at Otagosh:

Black Ops made a reference to Havir and his writing about HWA. So I went back and read the article and was blown away. I cannot believe that Havir would write this and Cartwright would publish it. It is the best article I have seen on this topic to come out of the Armstrongite offshoots.

Havir has it exactly right. Armstrongites do not understand leadership. Most of the “great leaders” in the WCG that I encountered personally were boorish snobs. They thrived inside a system that mistook insensitivity for courage, oppression for teaching, arrogance for dignity and stolidity for perseverance. They were taught and believed that they controlled the salvation of individual adherents. They believed that they were of such importance that they could run interference between God and people. Pretty breathtaking. All these sins were forgiven by their unwavering devotion to HWA. The fact that Havir would strike directly at the black heart of this system is amazing and no doubt will compromise his ability to be an influence on other Armstrongites who hold the traditional HWA-centric views. But I am glad he did it.

I used to work with David Havir at Big Sandy at times. Students were assigned to me and others like me for various work details. Havir was atypical for an AC student. He was friendly and egalitarian. He seemed to not be easily deluded. I was at the lower end of the servant-class at AC and he had no trouble treating me as if I were a person – something I found to be rare in that environment. So I am not surprised that he would write such an article. On the other hand, Don Ward, with his degree in Educational Psychology and considered by many to be the authority on leadership, could not have written such an article unless he has undergone a sea change. (One must be careful with semantics. Armstrongites will maintain that what their ministers do is “service.” This demonstrates how removed they are from a correct understanding of the pastoral function.)

— Neotherm

Probably not. People will read this in The Journal, along with other articles in other issues which will undermine everything Herbert Armstrong stood for, and they will pass right over them without being struck by the obvious cognitive dissonance. It’s all part of the chaotic landscape that’s been created there with absolutely crazy daft advertising mixed with a few sensible observations. It’s easy to get caught up in the noise.

Now some people will applaud the approach of David Havir, and by extension, Dixon Cartwright, many of the staff of The Journal, many of those at the top and near the top of the Church of God Big Sandy hierarchy and quite a number of those associated with the ideas and ideals within the United Church of God an International Association. Behind the scenes, they have abandoned British Israelism. Heresies and false prophets are irrelevant. Many of them seem to have found the research of the Christian Theologians that indicate that most of the books of the Bible were forged, few of the books could have been written by those with their names on them, that there are 40 gospels floating around of which only 4 were part of the New Testament (and were written 30 to 60 years after the events described in them by people who weren’t there to observe the events), II Peter, James, Jude and John are forgeries along with at least half of the epistles of Paul, that Revelation barely made it into the Bible and was suspect from the beginning, that the epistles of Paul were written before any of the other books of the New Testament and the rest of the books are “back fill”. The folks at The Journal and the others associated with it are just fine with that.

David Havir has thrown down the gauntlet, not that anyone is much going to react one way or another, because what is important is keeping the social group together. It certainly mitigates the pain of going “cold turkey” alone without social support.

The main problem with all of that is that the people in the social group do not know. They have the assumption that they are faithfully following Herbert Armstrong and his original ideas. The leadership knows that Herbert Armstrong was crap and his plagiarized ideas from G. G. Rupert are just plain stupid and wrong. They are manipulating the group for both their own agendas and to keep the group together. Clearly, building a new social structure of people who were in a cult of lies and delusions is not the best approach. There is still a class system at work here and it isn’t going to solve the underlying problem. There’s no reason to believe that someone inside a system can objectively observe that system nor assess it. Reinvention in place won’t solve the problem, particularly when members of the social group don’t actually believe the same things (especially considering they don’t believe the same things as the leadership) and this fact is hidden from them. This is similar to the machinations of the Grace Communion International, except that no one is trying to get anyone to change their ideas: They just let people keep their beliefs (which may be wildly divergent from the ideas of those around them), while they happily go forth and perform the physical rituals and pretend that it’s a religion that keeps them all together with Sabbath Services, socials, potlucks and Feasts. It could be any sort of social group, it’s just that it began as a cult.

The leadership can never fully admit to any of this because it would threaten the stability of the group, so a certain amount of deception is required to hold it all together. Not to worry, because as the decades roll on, people in the group will intermarry and become codependent, original ideals will be forgotten and lost and the cult becomes more mainstream even if it does contain some odd and unworkable practices. If it’s going to be like that, then eventually, keeping the Feasts will have to be voluntary and the concept of second tithe will have to disappear: We’re letting people follow the course of least resistance, providing “inspiration” supposedly based on “Biblical principles”. We’ve all seen this sort of thing before. While it may not end badly, it can’t end well either, with people in a society based on cult devised by a nut.

So David Havir and The Journal have sort of done our job for us. It’s nice that Herbert Armstrong was resoundingly criticized openly and cut to shreds by people who have automatic credibility with the Armstrongists. Still, the underlying direction has become rather disingenuous.

While we’re grateful for the help, we’ll take it from here.

7 Replies to “We at The Painful Truth want to thank The Journal for doing our job for us!”

  1. It is as if Dave Havir had been reading all of our posts and articles over the past 15 years! Amazing that someone from under the Armstrong umbrella would come to such conclusions, and would express them in such a manner that many members could assimilate and perhaps begin to apply to their own walk or journey. It was subtle, and actually got by me until just now, but then all that I generally do with the Journal is scan for names or news of people I once knew.

    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this realization were the first step in an evolutionary process, one that was destined to affect all of Armstrongism? I need to temper that thought with the knowledge that the factors discussed appear to be consistent with the early mission statements associated with the founding of UCG. We all know what has happened in the years following 1995.

    To my knowledge, I do not know, and have never met Dave Havir. However, it is indeed wonderful to learn of an individual with Armstrongish background who does not claim to be some sort of Biblical figure, idolizer of HWA, or absolute authority for the end times.

    BB

  2. David Havir (and Dixon Cartwright) haven’t just bitten the hand that feeds him, he’s chopped it off, ground it up and used it for fertilizer. I doubt this is an evolutionary process, it’s more a devolutionary process which is wrong-headed because it still extends the cult mentality.

  3. By the way, I did some web surfing as a result of the article on the Ambassador College Reunion. Through that surfing, quite sadly, I learned of the passing of one of our own, Mark Salyer Manning. Mark succumbed to the cancer which he had been battling for some time late in January. The last exchange I shared with him was in October 2014, over at Ironwolf. Awesome good-hearted guy!

    BB

  4. Yes Bob, Mark did pass. I got a email some months ago from a family member. Mark got to voice his opinion here as a closing statement at the end of his life. In my opinion he was duped like many of us. To his credit he quit the whole sordid affair. Goes to show you the man had character unlike some others supportive of Armstrongism.

  5. The leadership can never fully admit to any of this because it would threaten the stability of the group, so a certain amount of deception is required to hold it all together.

    I don’t think this is so necessarily and the reason why I say this is because it all boils down to priorities and when it comes to matters of “faith” people are more than capable of deceiving themselves.

    Though HWA has categorically denied the legitimacy of ALL splinter groups, when the heavy hand of the coercive hierarchy the Tkaches inherited was brought to bear, people realized they could either remain part of the “one true church” organization and abandon everything else HWA taught, or they could “hold fast” substantially, to as much as possible of HWA’s core heresy, and abandon this little bit of flatulence about the illegitimacy of the splinters, simply because their hand has been forced.

    The ACOGs are the product of a symbiotic (or co-dependent) relationship. The average splinter group member “needs” the god show to be put on for them every Saturday, and all the other ritual observances they think is how the brownie points are won (including that triple tithe scheme), and the ministers “need” to feel superior and provide a place for that river of cash to flow into (it’s a tough job, but somebody’s gotta do it…) And thus the stability of the group is established.

    The most fanatical of members are just as capable of cherrypicking which bits of HWA’s many heresies to adhere to and dispense with while deluding themselves that they’re holding fast to every word of HWA just like they’re capable of reading right over those explicit instructions about how to build a booth, what materials to use, and the clear command to dwell in that booth for FOT while never having built a booth in their entire lives, and still think they’re adhering in the utmost to every jot and every tittle. (What if 30% of your heavenly grade is based on your boothbuilding?)

    So a minister like Havir can, and I think to his credit (however marginal or generous the credit to which an ACOG minister currently on the dole might be entitled), take the moral high ground, and in the process of logically tearing his legitimacy to shreds, in the minds of the once-and-always-duped has actually established his legitimacy more firmly than ever.

    It all boils down to priorities and what each member imagines constitutes substantial performance of those priorities. How do you figure the brownie points are won? By sticking with an organization, no matter what? Or by performing a set of rituals no matter what? (While others, like myself, who once engaged in these exact calculations now discount the existence of such brownie points.)

    If the coercive hierarchy of the Tkach clan hadn’t run WCG off the rails and had chosen to instead play their hand by coercively enforcing all of HWA’s claptrap, WCG though probably much faded from its heyday, would likely still be a force to be reckoned with spiritually by those who at first accepted that HWA had them by the balls. Most members wouldn’t have been faced with the dilemma that the Tkaches forced everyone to deal with by taking WCG “off the track.” In that event, little cherrypicking would be necessary, so that many who in this universe have have gone from one splinter comfort zone to the next, would in a WCG universe instead have spent their lives clucking their tongues at the damned status of those in splinter groups, and how “in 3-5 years” they’d all die in the “great tribulation”…

    In hindsight, though I still think he’s by and large devoid of integrity and did it with far less than the noble intentions he would have you believe, I’m glad Joe Jr. all but destroyed WCG. He definitely created a more challenging landscape for all those who wish to defend and remain loyal to HWA’s teachings. If it weren’t for that, I might still be an Armstrongite.

  6. It is amazing how HWA truthfully stated that the ‘Church’ was a spiritual organism but after writing that, would steer one’s mind to think that the ‘Church’ was a physical organization that had a hierarchy form of government. In this, he cleverly deceived people into obeying him and his chosen ones.

    The fact is that Yahweh never formed a ‘Church’ but an assembly. What he and his cohorts call ranks, are really gifts. See Eph.4 where they are stated as gifts. I have heard many a minister read those verses and turn around and say that they were ranks, when they just read, gifts.

    Deception is surely a crafty method of controlling anothers mind without them realizing it.

  7. Sweetblood –

    Yes, the same Greek word was used in the Septuagint to refer to the “congregation” of Israel. The translator Tindale avoided translating the word as “church” so it would not be confused as a hierarchical organization.

    In his own words, HWA showed little respect for CG7’s structure. His paper denouncing the CG7 (Salem) 12 and 70 structure is part of Ambassador Report collection. Later CG7 was dismissed as being “Sardis”. A noted exception to his despising those above him was Andrew Dugger’s ‘you are right’ letter about BI.

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